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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-6275</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edgardo,

Very insightful comments. I must agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edgardo,</p>
<p>Very insightful comments. I must&nbsp;agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Edgardo Ceballos</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-6269</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgardo Ceballos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 01:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this discussion thread I see two mixed concepts: the business model and the sales strategy. Whatever your model is -- including your licensing schema, channel strategy, services portfolio, etc. -- you'll need to build relationships across the ecosystem, negotiate with real world people, in order to build trust, which is finally what closes deals, not the technology by itself.

People buy, not companies, and this is based on the sense that you’ll be there on the long run. A small company can hardly compete against a top notch player, unless that company uses the personalized approach that is hard to get with account managers from SAP, Oracle, etc. A small company can be quicker and closer to the decision making process.

This has been a silver bullet I used very often in my work experience with small sized companies. So please guys, don’t speak like "avoiding the sales people" as an advantage, whether to scale up a company or to create competitive advantages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this discussion thread I see two mixed concepts: the business model and the sales strategy. Whatever your model is&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;including your licensing schema, channel strategy, services portfolio, etc.&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;you&#8217;ll need to build relationships across the ecosystem, negotiate with real world people, in order to build trust, which is finally what closes deals, not the technology by&nbsp;itself.</p>
<p>People buy, not companies, and this is based on the sense that you’ll be there on the long run. A small company can hardly compete against a top notch player, unless that company uses the personalized approach that is hard to get with account managers from <span class="caps">SAP</span>, Oracle, etc. A small company can be quicker and closer to the decision making&nbsp;process.</p>
<p>This has been a silver bullet I used very often in my work experience with small sized companies. So please guys, don’t speak like &#8220;avoiding the sales people&#8221; as an advantage, whether to scale up a company or to create competitive&nbsp;advantages.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clayton,

I like the general idea, but developing a generic pricing model for it might prove to be challenging, especially when selling a generic piece of infrastructure software as we do. I tend to believe that such a model might be better suited to companies that are using our software in order to develop business solutions that are sold to business users directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton,</p>
<p>I like the general idea, but developing a generic pricing model for it might prove to be challenging, especially when selling a generic piece of infrastructure software as we do. I tend to believe that such a model might be better suited to companies that are using our software in order to develop business solutions that are sold to business users&nbsp;directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Costa</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-779</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Still around the "distribution model" subject... Several companies are creating "Shared Services" groups and outsourcing complete business processes, instead of just IT infrastratucture or discrete pieces of processes. Basically, this is driven by the never-ending search for cost savings, productivity improvements and synergy development between disparate business units, functional-driven departments, etc. A real shift in distribution model could be to make Intalio products the enabling tools for such initiatives, forging "shared revenues/savings" agreements with customers. That could create an extreme win-win situation, where Intalio could incur less sales/marketing costs, develop increased focus on customer success, and eventually generate better results as a corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Still around the &#8220;distribution model&#8221; subject&#8230; Several companies are creating &#8220;Shared Services&#8221; groups and outsourcing complete business processes, instead of just <span class="caps">IT</span> infrastratucture or discrete pieces of processes. Basically, this is driven by the never-ending search for cost savings, productivity improvements and synergy development between disparate business units, functional-driven departments, etc. A real shift in distribution model could be to make Intalio products the enabling tools for such initiatives, forging &#8220;shared revenues/savings&#8221; agreements with customers. That could create an extreme win-win situation, where Intalio could incur less sales/marketing costs, develop increased focus on customer success, and eventually generate better results as a&nbsp;corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clayton,

I agree with you. This model very much relies on the development of strong channels and does not remove the need for marketing. The only thing that changes is that customers will see less sales representatives driving expensive cars, but I'm not sure that they'll complain much about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton,</p>
<p>I agree with you. This model very much relies on the development of strong channels and does not remove the need for marketing. The only thing that changes is that customers will see less sales representatives driving expensive cars, but I&#8217;m not sure that they&#8217;ll complain much about&nbsp;it.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Costa</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, but still challenging. Maybe as much as to sell regular software licenses. While you don't need a direct sales force -- and it saves a lot of money! -- you still need to promote the company in some way. Influencers -- like the big system integrators -- must be willing to recommend your solutions to customers. The simple fact that the software is open-source and free is not enough to motivate customers to try it -- unless you're already seen as a strong player -- which seems to be the case for Intalio. After all, this model is a just another kind of "try-then-buy" offering, isn't it? My bet is that the key success factor here is the ability to manage the relationship with strategic partners like the big consulting companies, system integrators and other software vendors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, but still challenging. Maybe as much as to sell regular software licenses. While you don&#8217;t need a direct sales force&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and it saves a lot of money!&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;you still need to promote the company in some way. Influencers&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;like the big system integrators&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;must be willing to recommend your solutions to customers. The simple fact that the software is open-source and free is not enough to motivate customers to try it&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;unless you&#8217;re already seen as a strong player&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;which seems to be the case for Intalio. After all, this model is a just another kind of &#8220;try-then-buy&#8221; offering, isn&#8217;t it? My bet is that the key success factor here is the ability to manage the relationship with strategic partners like the big consulting companies, system integrators and other software&nbsp;vendors.</p>
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		<title>By: IT&#124;Redux &#187; Intalio&#124;BPMS 4.0 Released</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>IT&#124;Redux &#187; Intalio&#124;BPMS 4.0 Released</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The new distribution model we adopted two months ago is starting to bear fruits: we generated more qualified leads in the last six weeks than we did in the past six years. Following the successful setup of our offshore engineering group in Ukraine, we decided to open telesales offices in India and Ireland in order to keep up with increasing demand for our software and services. We are also extending our support capabilities in India and are currently looking for technical partners in Europe in order to provide 24/7 support on a worldwide basis. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The new distribution model we adopted two months ago is starting to bear fruits: we generated more qualified leads in the last six weeks than we did in the past six years. Following the successful setup of our offshore engineering group in Ukraine, we decided to open telesales offices in India and Ireland in order to keep up with increasing demand for our software and services. We are also extending our support capabilities in India and are currently looking for technical partners in Europe in order to provide 24/7 support on a worldwide basis.&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis,

Fair objection. List prices are often discounted indeed. Nevertheless, now matter how big the discount ends up being, customers willing to use in a production environment BPMS software provided by IBM, Oracle and SAP need to purchase a license upfront. Our model is different in the sense that customers can go into production without having to purchase a license upfront, as long as they are using Geronimo and MySQL. Once they feel that they need to upgrade to a more robust database, or deploy on top of the application server they picked as corporate standard, all they have to do is purchase a license, enter a license key, move one EAR file and one WAR file, and they are up and running again, this time on their deployment platform of choice. This incremental adoption model is explained in more details on our &lt;a href="http://www.intalio.com/products/index.html"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt; and really is what makes us different.

Regarding your question on our federated model, what we mean by 'federated' is that multiple vendors such as Celequest and Intalio team up to deliver a complete solution. More details on this partnership will be unveiled as we announce additional partners over the next few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis,</p>
<p>Fair objection. List prices are often discounted indeed. Nevertheless, now matter how big the discount ends up being, customers willing to use in a production environment <span class="caps">BPMS</span> software provided by <span class="caps">IBM</span>, Oracle and <span class="caps">SAP</span> need to purchase a license upfront. Our model is different in the sense that customers can go into production without having to purchase a license upfront, as long as they are using Geronimo and MySQL. Once they feel that they need to upgrade to a more robust database, or deploy on top of the application server they picked as corporate standard, all they have to do is purchase a license, enter a license key, move one <span class="caps">EAR</span> file and one <span class="caps">WAR</span> file, and they are up and running again, this time on their deployment platform of choice. This incremental adoption model is explained in more details on our <a href="http://www.intalio.com/products/index.html">website</a> and really is what makes us&nbsp;different.</p>
<p>Regarding your question on our federated model, what we mean by &#8216;federated&#8217; is that multiple vendors such as Celequest and Intalio team up to deliver a complete solution. More details on this partnership will be unveiled as we announce additional partners over the next few&nbsp;weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis D. McDonald</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/01/17/for-a-new-software-distribution-model/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis D. McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to hear more about what you describe as a "federated" model. Why use the word "federated'?

Also, are you suggesting that your pricing model is qualitatively different from "the big guys?" 

Is it really? They've always been able to look at -- and price to -- a total revenue stream that consists of initial license fees, customization services, and ongoing maintenance and support. Given that the big guys have always been able to discount any of these components to help close the sale, how is what your are doing any different from the customer's point of view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to hear more about what you describe as a &#8220;federated&#8221; model. Why use the word&nbsp;&#8220;federated&#8217;?</p>
<p>Also, are you suggesting that your pricing model is qualitatively different from &#8220;the big&nbsp;guys?&#8221; </p>
<p>Is it really? They&#8217;ve always been able to look at&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and price to&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;a total revenue stream that consists of initial license fees, customization services, and ongoing maintenance and support. Given that the big guys have always been able to discount any of these components to help close the sale, how is what your are doing any different from the customer&#8217;s point of&nbsp;view?</p>
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