Comments on: The First Office 2.0 Suites http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/ New Rules for a New IT World Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:19:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta3 hourly 1 By: Craig Cmehil http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1445 Craig Cmehil Tue, 02 May 2006 17:20:44 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1445 Ever since I experienced a hard drive crash, I have been slowly moving away from my "desktop PC" to an Internet one. The major problem has been the multitude of applications though. I've been exploring 3 "solutions" for having everything together. 1) A custom module for <a href="http://craig.cmehil.com/2006/04/web-20-and-empty-computer.html">my Google homepage</a> that builds a quick launch bar. I've been slowly adding in the entries from the Office 2.0 Database there, giving any user complete control over which applications get loaded. 2) <a href="http://eyeos.org/">eyeOS</a>. This is something I came across recently, but it's still in the early stages. I've not tried to build any interfaces (eyeApps) yet, but when I get some time I will give it a go and see how loading some Office 2.0 applications works out. 3) Basically a custom loader which offers single sign-on for all my applications. Most have the ability to do auto logins, so that seems to be working, but I have concerns about security. The same goes for using various APIs to build the interfaces between the applications. It would be nice if other developers beat me to this though -- I do not have so much time these days. It's an exciting time these days with these new advances, and I look forward to the great blog posts here and the continued growth of the Office 2.0 Database -- keep up the great work! BTW, for anyone attending the SAP Sapphire conference in Orlando on May 16-18th, SAP is holding a <a href="http://weblogs.sdn.sap.com">Scripting Langauges Breakfeast</a> the morning of the 16th in the conference center -- so stop by! Ever since I experienced a hard drive crash, I have been slowly moving away from my “desktop PC” to an Internet one. The major problem has been the multitude of applications though. I’ve been exploring 3 “solutions” for having everything together.

1) A custom module for my Google homepage that builds a quick launch bar. I’ve been slowly adding in the entries from the Office 2.0 Database there, giving any user complete control over which applications get loaded.

2) eyeOS. This is something I came across recently, but it’s still in the early stages. I’ve not tried to build any interfaces (eyeApps) yet, but when I get some time I will give it a go and see how loading some Office 2.0 applications works out.

3) Basically a custom loader which offers single sign-on for all my applications. Most have the ability to do auto logins, so that seems to be working, but I have concerns about security. The same goes for using various APIs to build the interfaces between the applications. It would be nice if other developers beat me to this though — I do not have so much time these days.

It’s an exciting time these days with these new advances, and I look forward to the great blog posts here and the continued growth of the Office 2.0 Database — keep up the great work!

BTW, for anyone attending the SAP Sapphire conference in Orlando on May 16-18th, SAP is holding a Scripting Langauges Breakfeast the morning of the 16th in the conference center — so stop by!

]]> By: Sadiq http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1361 Sadiq Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:51:10 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1361 Zoli, You are correct, the majority of users would prefer a hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office. But at the same time there are many organizations, usually SMBs, that want to have a downloadable version which they can install on their servers. For this the reason, we planned to have both a downloadable version and a hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office. The hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office is in the testing phase and will be available for the users to access very soon. Zoli,

You are correct, the majority of users would prefer a hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office. But at the same time there are many organizations, usually SMBs, that want to have a downloadable version which they can install on their servers.

For this the reason, we planned to have both a downloadable version and a hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office. The hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office is in the testing phase and will be available for the users to access very soon.

]]> By: Arvind http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1360 Arvind Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:52:13 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1360 Nice that you brought this up, Zoli. We are indeed working on a hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office which should be available soon. Nice that you brought this up, Zoli. We are indeed working on a hosted version of Zoho Virtual Office which should be available soon.

]]> By: Zoli Erdos http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1342 Zoli Erdos Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:07:38 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1342 Ismael, I'm quite confused by Zoho virtual office. Unlike the standalone Zoho applications, this one seems to be a dowloadable package that you need to install on your own servers -- which makes sense for some SMB's, but for the majority a hosted version would be better. Have you looked at it yet? Am I just missing something? It would be so illogical for these guys not to have a hosted one. Ismael,

I’m quite confused by Zoho virtual office. Unlike the standalone Zoho applications, this one seems to be a dowloadable package that you need to install on your own servers — which makes sense for some SMB’s, but for the majority a hosted version would be better. Have you looked at it yet? Am I just missing something? It would be so illogical for these guys not to have a hosted one.

]]> By: Vladimir Miloushev http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1333 Vladimir Miloushev Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:39:45 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1333 Lee is raising an important point. The issue is not only in the login authentication and security, although those are definitely the first barrier. We will also need to figure out a good way to exchange data betweeen applications. Cut and paste through the desktop will not work -- if there is a lot of data, and the user is on a standard 1-2Mbit connection (or, God forbid, on a slower link), the experience will be miserable. Lee, at 3TERA we are working in this direction -- I will appreciate the opportunity to discuss these issues with you in more detail. Ismael has my contact info, or just email to info at 3tera dot com... Lee is raising an important point. The issue is not only in the login authentication and security, although those are definitely the first barrier. We will also need to figure out a good way to exchange data betweeen applications. Cut and paste through the desktop will not work — if there is a lot of data, and the user is on a standard 1-2Mbit connection (or, God forbid, on a slower link), the experience will be miserable.

Lee, at 3TERA we are working in this direction — I will appreciate the opportunity to discuss these issues with you in more detail. Ismael has my contact info, or just email to info at 3tera dot com…

]]> By: Lee Provoost http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1325 Lee Provoost Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:12:57 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1325 What I am wondering is whether the future of Office 2.0 will be these web-based OS systems or not? The thing that blocks adoption a bit is that currently you need to log into a dozen of applications from different vendors. While there are people working on single sign on, I still think that we need something like one web page where we can launch all our stuff, with the necessary authentication, security, etc. Do we need such a web based OS for that or can we achieve this in orther ways? What I am wondering is whether the future of Office 2.0 will be these web-based OS systems or not? The thing that blocks adoption a bit is that currently you need to log into a dozen of applications from different vendors. While there are people working on single sign on, I still think that we need something like one web page where we can launch all our stuff, with the necessary authentication, security, etc. Do we need such a web based OS for that or can we achieve this in orther ways?

]]> By: The Hurray-Hurray Site http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1294 The Hurray-Hurray Site Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:07:08 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1294 <strong>Let’s twozero...</strong> The so called Web 2.0, Internet’s millennium and the all new revolution, not only brought us applications like Flickr, Gmail and of course a little bit of web standard popularity — which is good by the way. The next generation... Let’s twozero…

The so called Web 2.0, Internet’s millennium and the all new revolution, not only brought us applications like Flickr, Gmail and of course a little bit of web standard popularity — which is good by the way. The next generation…

]]> By: Ismael Ghalimi http://itredux.com/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Ismael Ghalimi Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:15:05 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2006/04/19/the-first-office-20-suites/#comment-1277 The following people have contributed to the Office 2.0 Database: Raphael Bauduin, Suzan Bird, Carl Bremmer, Matthias Breuer, James Brewis, Aaron Curtis, Eric Goldstein, Etienne Gonnaud, Michael Grubb, Christoph Helzle, Menachem Hoffman, Onur Kose, David Lanier, David Lee, Jason Lemkin, Ivaylo Lenkov, Rob Mayhew, Arvind Natarajan, Robert Nyman, Kat Ortland, Brent Parker, Mahalie Pech, Lee Provoost, John Robb, Toby Segaran, Ramesh Sripathy, Geoffrey Tang, Maggie Tsai, Anthony Webb, and Danny Wen. Special thanks to Lee Provoost for his outstanding contribution of 19 entries. The following people have contributed to the Office 2.0 Database:

Raphael Bauduin, Suzan Bird, Carl Bremmer, Matthias Breuer, James Brewis, Aaron Curtis, Eric Goldstein, Etienne Gonnaud, Michael Grubb, Christoph Helzle, Menachem Hoffman, Onur Kose, David Lanier, David Lee, Jason Lemkin, Ivaylo Lenkov, Rob Mayhew, Arvind Natarajan, Robert Nyman, Kat Ortland, Brent Parker, Mahalie Pech, Lee Provoost, John Robb, Toby Segaran, Ramesh Sripathy, Geoffrey Tang, Maggie Tsai, Anthony Webb, and Danny Wen.

Special thanks to Lee Provoost for his outstanding contribution of 19 entries.

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