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	<title>Comments on: Getting There</title>
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		<title>By: Luis Bender</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2598</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know, Ismael. I guess that never happened to them. Anyway, you may ask Celia Wolf (cwolf@bptrends.com) directly about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Ismael. I guess that never happened to them. Anyway, you may ask Celia Wolf (cwolf@bptrends.com) directly about&nbsp;that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 07:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis,

Fair enough. Do they offer a discount for Open Source vendors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis,</p>
<p>Fair enough. Do they offer a discount for Open Source&nbsp;vendors?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Bender</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2573</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 19:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

I agree with you that customer public feedback and recommendations carry more weight than analysts reports. I think it brings you more solid opportunities than analysts reports, which will probably generate more RFP-like opportunities (very costly and less effective). But participation in the BPTrends report costs less that $5k, which seems to be a fair amount for the exposure a product can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>I agree with you that customer public feedback and recommendations carry more weight than analysts reports. I think it brings you more solid opportunities than analysts reports, which will probably generate more <span class="caps">RFP</span>-like opportunities (very costly and less effective). But participation in the BPTrends report costs less that $5k, which seems to be a fair amount for the exposure a product can&nbsp;get.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis,

From a product standpoint, we compete (and win) today.

From the standpoint of showing up on these reports, we would have to pay for it, and so far, we've felt that we could be successful without having to go down that path. It does not mean that we will never sponsor such reports, but right now I'd rather have customers talk about our product. In my view, real customer feedback posted on some blog will always carry more weight than any analyst report or press article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis,</p>
<p>From a product standpoint, we compete (and win)&nbsp;today.</p>
<p>From the standpoint of showing up on these reports, we would have to pay for it, and so far, we&#8217;ve felt that we could be successful without having to go down that path. It does not mean that we will never sponsor such reports, but right now I&#8217;d rather have customers talk about our product. In my view, real customer feedback posted on some blog will always carry more weight than any analyst report or press&nbsp;article.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2569</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aditya,

We will offer both options. The application server is optional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aditya,</p>
<p>We will offer both options. The application server is&nbsp;optional.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Bender</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 14:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Congratulations to Intalioâ€™s team for the good (and hard) work.

Regarding Intalio and the BPMS market, how far do you think you are from being able to compete head-to-head with other BPMS like Fuego or FileNet on industry analysts reviews like BPTrends BPM Suites Report (by Derek Miers and Paul Harmon) and BPMInstitute BPMS Report (by Bruce Silver)? I think that would bring you attention from a very broad audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Congratulations to Intalioâ€™s team for the good (and hard)&nbsp;work.</p>
<p>Regarding Intalio and the <span class="caps">BPMS</span> market, how far do you think you are from being able to compete head-to-head with other <span class="caps">BPMS</span> like Fuego or FileNet on industry analysts reviews like BPTrends <span class="caps">BPM</span> Suites Report (by Derek Miers and Paul Harmon) and BPMInstitute <span class="caps">BPMS</span> Report (by Bruce Silver)? I think that would bring you attention from a very broad&nbsp;audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Aditya</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>Aditya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 01:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm curious.... Is there a technical reason why Intalio requires an Application Server like Geronimo or JBoss? I see a lot of products go the Tomcat+Spring route these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious&#8230;. Is there a technical reason why Intalio requires an Application Server like Geronimo or JBoss? I see a lot of products go the Tomcat+Spring route these&nbsp;days.</p>
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