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		<title>By: Luis Bender</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2598</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Ismael. I guess that never happened to them. Anyway, you may ask Celia Wolf (cwolf@bptrends.com) directly about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Ismael. I guess that never happened to them. Anyway, you may ask Celia Wolf (cwolf@bptrends.com) directly about&nbsp;that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2589</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 07:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis,

Fair enough. Do they offer a discount for Open Source vendors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis,</p>
<p>Fair enough. Do they offer a discount for Open Source&nbsp;vendors?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Bender</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2573</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 19:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

I agree with you that customer public feedback and recommendations carry more weight than analysts reports. I think it brings you more solid opportunities than analysts reports, which will probably generate more RFP-like opportunities (very costly and less effective). But participation in the BPTrends report costs less that $5k, which seems to be a fair amount for the exposure a product can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>I agree with you that customer public feedback and recommendations carry more weight than analysts reports. I think it brings you more solid opportunities than analysts reports, which will probably generate more <span class="caps">RFP</span>-like opportunities (very costly and less effective). But participation in the BPTrends report costs less that $5k, which seems to be a fair amount for the exposure a product can&nbsp;get.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis,

From a product standpoint, we compete (and win) today.

From the standpoint of showing up on these reports, we would have to pay for it, and so far, we&#039;ve felt that we could be successful without having to go down that path. It does not mean that we will never sponsor such reports, but right now I&#039;d rather have customers talk about our product. In my view, real customer feedback posted on some blog will always carry more weight than any analyst report or press article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis,</p>
<p>From a product standpoint, we compete (and win)&nbsp;today.</p>
<p>From the standpoint of showing up on these reports, we would have to pay for it, and so far, we&#8217;ve felt that we could be successful without having to go down that path. It does not mean that we will never sponsor such reports, but right now I&#8217;d rather have customers talk about our product. In my view, real customer feedback posted on some blog will always carry more weight than any analyst report or press&nbsp;article.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2569</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aditya,

We will offer both options. The application server is optional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aditya,</p>
<p>We will offer both options. The application server is&nbsp;optional.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Bender</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 14:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Congratulations to Intalioâ€™s team for the good (and hard) work.

Regarding Intalio and the BPMS market, how far do you think you are from being able to compete head-to-head with other BPMS like Fuego or FileNet on industry analysts reviews like BPTrends BPM Suites Report (by Derek Miers and Paul Harmon) and BPMInstitute BPMS Report (by Bruce Silver)? I think that would bring you attention from a very broad audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Congratulations to Intalioâ€™s team for the good (and hard)&nbsp;work.</p>
<p>Regarding Intalio and the <span class="caps">BPMS</span> market, how far do you think you are from being able to compete head-to-head with other <span class="caps">BPMS</span> like Fuego or FileNet on industry analysts reviews like BPTrends <span class="caps">BPM</span> Suites Report (by Derek Miers and Paul Harmon) and BPMInstitute <span class="caps">BPMS</span> Report (by Bruce Silver)? I think that would bring you attention from a very broad&nbsp;audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Aditya</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2006/05/20/getting-there/comment-page-1/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>Aditya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 01:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious.... Is there a technical reason why Intalio requires an Application Server like Geronimo or JBoss? I see a lot of products go the Tomcat+Spring route these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious&#8230;. Is there a technical reason why Intalio requires an Application Server like Geronimo or JBoss? I see a lot of products go the Tomcat+Spring route these&nbsp;days.</p>
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