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		<title>By: IT&#124;Redux &#187; For an Amazon Web Services Clone</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-35282</link>
		<dc:creator>IT&#124;Redux &#187; For an Amazon Web Services Clone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In my Inferences for &#8216;07, I suggested that open-source, plug-compatible alternatives to Amazon&#8217;s EC2, S3, SQS will be released sometime this year. Here are a set of reasons why this would make sense, and why everybody would benefit from such a thing, including Amazon itself. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] In my Inferences for &#8216;07, I suggested that open-source, plug-compatible alternatives to Amazon&#8217;s <span class="caps">EC2</span>, S3, <span class="caps">SQS</span> will be released sometime this year. Here are a set of reasons why this would make sense, and why everybody would benefit from such a thing, including Amazon itself.&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32197</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis,

Thanks for sharing the source. I would not say that &quot;not going according to plan&quot; equals failure, but the figure is disturbing to say the least. My take is that most BPM products out there simply do not work, for they are not products, but rather frameworks that only consultants paid by the vendors themselves can actually deploy into production, and that is when these consultants are actually good.

A couple of months ago, I had a discussion with an analyst at one of the top analyst firms. I mentioned our &lt;a href=&quot;http://itredux.com/blog/2006/06/14/bpms-challenge/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BPMS Challenge&lt;/a&gt; -- which by the way no vendor managed to complete, contrary to what they claimed -- and I asked her if she could name one BPMS vendor -- beside Intalio -- which product had been successfully deployed without any help from the vendor itself. She admitted that she could not. As a point of reference, this analysts conducts over 300 customer briefings on BPM every year, and personally covers all BPM products you and I could think of. To me, this tells the whole story.

More on this later.

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing the source. I would not say that &#8220;not going according to plan&#8221; equals failure, but the figure is disturbing to say the least. My take is that most <span class="caps">BPM</span> products out there simply do not work, for they are not products, but rather frameworks that only consultants paid by the vendors themselves can actually deploy into production, and that is when these consultants are actually&nbsp;good.</p>
<p>A couple of months ago, I had a discussion with an analyst at one of the top analyst firms. I mentioned our <a href="http://itredux.com/blog/2006/06/14/bpms-challenge/" rel="nofollow"><span class="caps">BPMS</span> Challenge</a>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;which by the way no vendor managed to complete, contrary to what they claimed&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and I asked her if she could name one <span class="caps">BPMS</span> vendor&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;beside Intalio&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;which product had been successfully deployed without any help from the vendor itself. She admitted that she could not. As a point of reference, this analysts conducts over 300 customer briefings on <span class="caps">BPM</span> every year, and personally covers all <span class="caps">BPM</span> products you and I could think of. To me, this tells the whole&nbsp;story.</p>
<p>More on this&nbsp;later.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Ip</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32195</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Ip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Actually, the failure rate is 59%, not 41% as I quoted. &quot;A recent survey by BPM Magazine advised that vendors and consultants fall short in delivering on the promise of BPM systems -â€“ only 41% of the companies surveyed reported that their BPM system implementation went according to plan.&quot; The source is BPM Magazine&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bpmmag.net/magazine/research.html&quot;&gt;Survey on BPM Implementations&lt;/a&gt;.

You can subscribe to get a copy of that report in the BMP magazine.

Best regards,
-Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Actually, the failure rate is 59%, not 41% as I quoted. &#8220;A recent survey by <span class="caps">BPM</span> Magazine advised that vendors and consultants fall short in delivering on the promise of <span class="caps">BPM</span> systems -â€“ only 41% of the companies surveyed reported that their <span class="caps">BPM</span> system implementation went according to plan.&#8221; The source is <span class="caps">BPM</span> Magazine&#8217;s <a href="http://www.bpmmag.net/magazine/research.html">Survey on <span class="caps">BPM</span>&nbsp;Implementations</a>.</p>
<p>You can subscribe to get a copy of that report in the <span class="caps">BMP</span>&nbsp;magazine.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />&nbsp;-Francis</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32154</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis,

Where did you find this statistics about the failure rate of BPMS projects? I believe it must be close to the reality, but I would like some reference for it. Also, the quality of documentation for Open Source projects varies greatly, and is up to the commercial Open Source vendors to improve. Feel free to join us if you want to help.

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,</p>
<p>Where did you find this statistics about the failure rate of <span class="caps">BPMS</span> projects? I believe it must be close to the reality, but I would like some reference for it. Also, the quality of documentation for Open Source projects varies greatly, and is up to the commercial Open Source vendors to improve. Feel free to join us if you want to&nbsp;help.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32152</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger,

Glad to see you write that. I think so too.

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>
<p>Glad to see you write that. I think so&nbsp;too.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Ip</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32128</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Ip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

I believe that you may get somewhere with your security models. Please submit them to ISO to enhance its standard -- Common Criteria (CC): ISO/IEC 15408. CC (C2) was derived from DoD&#039;s Trusted Computing System -- the Orange book. After its publication, many governments in the world adopted it as security standard for ADP (Automatic Data Processing). There are many levels of certification, the minimum is C2. The highest one is A1, which no one has been able to achieve as of yet. Instead of maintaining the Orange book to incorporate feedback from other governments, DoD turned it over to ISO to evolve and maintain it as an international standard. When software is C2 certified, governments can purchase it without questions.

When BPMS matures to be an EPMS (Enterprise Processes Management System), it needs to be C2 certified before large organziations will use it. The current statistics for the failure rate in BPMS implementation is 41%, even with help from BPM consultants and vendor specialists. Many organizations question the real benefits as touted by BPMS vendors. The concept is fantastic, but the software falls short in realizing the benefits claimed!

Going down the Open Source route is a good way to promote BPMS. When a facing high failure rate, BPMS is another venture like ERP implementation -- expensive and with a lot of headaches and heartaches! There is no free lunch, even if the cost for the software is a big fat zero. An organization still needs to invest in hiring external expertise and training its staff to plan, design, configure, execute, and maintain the BPMS.

In essence, it is about more than just security in deploying BPMS within an organization. Open source vendors make money by offering training and support services. Moreover, it is a general practice that Open Source software&#039;s documentation is at the lowest level of quality. The best documentations are from IBM and Microsoft. DEC and Tandem were too, but they no longer exist, as they are part of HP&#039;s operations! IBM&#039;s Principles of Operations for the 360 Mainframe was the best computer architecture document ever published in the sofware arena!

-Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>I believe that you may get somewhere with your security models. Please submit them to <span class="caps">ISO</span> to enhance its standard&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;Common Criteria (<span class="caps">CC</span>): <span class="caps">ISO</span>/<span class="caps">IEC</span> 15408. <span class="caps">CC</span> (C2) was derived from DoD&#8217;s Trusted Computing System&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;the Orange book. After its publication, many governments in the world adopted it as security standard for <span class="caps">ADP</span> (Automatic Data Processing). There are many levels of certification, the minimum is C2. The highest one is A1, which no one has been able to achieve as of yet. Instead of maintaining the Orange book to incorporate feedback from other governments, DoD turned it over to <span class="caps">ISO</span> to evolve and maintain it as an international standard. When software is C2 certified, governments can purchase it without&nbsp;questions.</p>
<p>When <span class="caps">BPMS</span> matures to be an <span class="caps">EPMS</span> (Enterprise Processes Management System), it needs to be C2 certified before large organziations will use it. The current statistics for the failure rate in <span class="caps">BPMS</span> implementation is 41%, even with help from <span class="caps">BPM</span> consultants and vendor specialists. Many organizations question the real benefits as touted by <span class="caps">BPMS</span> vendors. The concept is fantastic, but the software falls short in realizing the benefits&nbsp;claimed!</p>
<p>Going down the Open Source route is a good way to promote <span class="caps">BPMS</span>. When a facing high failure rate, <span class="caps">BPMS</span> is another venture like <span class="caps">ERP</span> implementation&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;expensive and with a lot of headaches and heartaches! There is no free lunch, even if the cost for the software is a big fat zero. An organization still needs to invest in hiring external expertise and training its staff to plan, design, configure, execute, and maintain the&nbsp;<span class="caps">BPMS</span>.</p>
<p>In essence, it is about more than just security in deploying <span class="caps">BPMS</span> within an organization. Open source vendors make money by offering training and support services. Moreover, it is a general practice that Open Source software&#8217;s documentation is at the lowest level of quality. The best documentations are from <span class="caps">IBM</span> and Microsoft. <span class="caps">DEC</span> and Tandem were too, but they no longer exist, as they are part of <span class="caps">HP</span>&#8217;s operations! <span class="caps">IBM</span>&#8217;s Principles of Operations for the 360 Mainframe was the best computer architecture document ever published in the sofware&nbsp;arena!</p>
<p>-Francis</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Culter</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32068</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Culter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good that the folks over at JBoss have it all wrong regarding Intalio, and that it is 100% free to use even in production environments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good that the folks over at JBoss have it all wrong regarding Intalio, and that it is 100% free to use even in production&nbsp;environments.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Urry</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32053</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Urry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis, Ismael,

I have a few models for security, based on the level of paranoia required by the organization. Military systems have a high level, Ismael&#039;s Blog a low level. My solution is to have a process-based system that is open to access by anyone, the process system then determines how the process should run, not if it should run. This way, security is embedded in the BPMS. You can still be paranoid if you like, and add a firewall, but it should not be necessary.

Cheers
-Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,&nbsp;Ismael,</p>
<p>I have a few models for security, based on the level of paranoia required by the organization. Military systems have a high level, Ismael&#8217;s Blog a low level. My solution is to have a process-based system that is open to access by anyone, the process system then determines how the process should run, not if it should run. This way, security is embedded in the <span class="caps">BPMS</span>. You can still be paranoid if you like, and add a firewall, but it should not be&nbsp;necessary.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />&nbsp;-Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Ip</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-32000</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Ip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Security, in general, is ignored by most software developers when they conceive, design, and develop their products. Many software vendors -- including IBM -- have to retrofit it, when they want to sell their products to governments (e.g. U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and many others). Oracle needed to get C2 certified because it has its own file I/O and clustering subsystems, which bypass every OS, including IBM mainframes, UNIX, and Windows. By the way, no one can get A1 (or equivalent) certified, for it needs to be mathematically proven that the software or hardware complies with all A1 requirements. Moreover, the one who submits the proof, must have a recognized MS degree or higher!

If BPMS is as powerful and versatile as most vendors claim, it needs to be C2 certified, for it can potentially interface with many, if not all, enterprise systems. Let us say that a BPMS can interface with the systems for an intelligent building to monitor system activities at a high-level. In its current form, it is not too difficult to tap into a BPMS and take control of the security and environmental control systems of a building! Imagine that you could gain access to virtually everywhere in the building by bypassing all surveillance devices such as CCTV and motion detectors. In essence, a Chief Risk Officer, not the CIO, must be able to verify and ensure that the BPMS is not a loophole that poses security threats. SOA and AJAX are vulnerable to many forms of attacks over the Internet in their current forms!

-Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Security, in general, is ignored by most software developers when they conceive, design, and develop their products. Many software vendors&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;including <span class="caps">IBM</span>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;have to retrofit it, when they want to sell their products to governments (e.g. U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, and many others). Oracle needed to get C2 certified because it has its own file I/O and clustering subsystems, which bypass every <span class="caps">OS</span>, including <span class="caps">IBM</span> mainframes, <span class="caps">UNIX</span>, and Windows. By the way, no one can get A1 (or equivalent) certified, for it needs to be mathematically proven that the software or hardware complies with all A1 requirements. Moreover, the one who submits the proof, must have a recognized <span class="caps">MS</span> degree or&nbsp;higher!</p>
<p>If <span class="caps">BPMS</span> is as powerful and versatile as most vendors claim, it needs to be C2 certified, for it can potentially interface with many, if not all, enterprise systems. Let us say that a <span class="caps">BPMS</span> can interface with the systems for an intelligent building to monitor system activities at a high-level. In its current form, it is not too difficult to tap into a <span class="caps">BPMS</span> and take control of the security and environmental control systems of a building! Imagine that you could gain access to virtually everywhere in the building by bypassing all surveillance devices such as <span class="caps">CCTV</span> and motion detectors. In essence, a Chief Risk Officer, not the <span class="caps">CIO</span>, must be able to verify and ensure that the <span class="caps">BPMS</span> is not a loophole that poses security threats. <span class="caps">SOA</span> and <span class="caps">AJAX</span> are vulnerable to many forms of attacks over the Internet in their current&nbsp;forms!</p>
<p>-Francis</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31633</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

You&#039;re right in saying that revenues generated by SugarCRM and vtiger will be a lot less than the ones generated by Salesforce.com. But what interests me is the disruptive power of such solutions. In the end, they make a difference, much like the availability of a good Open Source J2EE application server (JBoss) completely reshaped this industry, to the customers&#039; benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right in saying that revenues generated by SugarCRM and vtiger will be a lot less than the ones generated by Salesforce.com. But what interests me is the disruptive power of such solutions. In the end, they make a difference, much like the availability of a good Open Source <span class="caps">J2EE</span> application server (JBoss) completely reshaped this industry, to the customers&#8217;&nbsp;benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

If you look at the time it took for the RDBMS to go from idea (ealy 70&#039;s) to working implementation (early 80&#039;s), BPM seems to be on a faster track. But you&#039;re right in saying that too many vendors are confusing the message. In the end, I trust customers to be smarter though, and to focus on what will really solve their problems. I do not believe that a revamped workflow solution will make the cut there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>If you look at the time it took for the <span class="caps">RDBMS</span> to go from idea (ealy 70&#8217;s) to working implementation (early 80&#8217;s), <span class="caps">BPM</span> seems to be on a faster track. But you&#8217;re right in saying that too many vendors are confusing the message. In the end, I trust customers to be smarter though, and to focus on what will really solve their problems. I do not believe that a revamped workflow solution will make the cut&nbsp;there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31630</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

Thanks for the clarification. Very helpful.

-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. Very&nbsp;helpful.</p>
<p>-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Jason M. Lemkin</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31620</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason M. Lemkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More user accounts will be created on SugarCRM and vtiger combined than on Salesforce.com.&quot;

This I believe, but how much revenue will the accounts generate vs. CRM seats? And will they really dent the core CRM base &amp; growth rate? All accounts of course not created equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dquo"><span class="dquo">&#8220;</span></span>More user accounts will be created on SugarCRM and vtiger combined than on&nbsp;Salesforce.com.&#8221;</p>
<p>This I believe, but how much revenue will the accounts generate vs. <span class="caps">CRM</span> seats? And will they really dent the core <span class="caps">CRM</span> base <span class="amp">&amp;</span> growth rate? All accounts of course not created&nbsp;equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Urry</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31602</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Urry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 13:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ismael,

A very Happy New Year to you.

I&#039;m not sure how secure the future of BPM is at times. It seems that there has been a bit of a lack of innovation in this space, considering how long it has been around. I realize it is often hard to turn the excitement and promise of a new technology into revenue, and I expect that has a major impact on developments. 

Because of this, it seems that many vendors have created alternative approaches (largely because they don&#039;t understand BPM properly). This just adds to the confusion of potential customers. So I&#039;m not so sure how much time &#039;pure&#039; BPM has before some of these alternatives become too embedded in the minds of those customers.

But I remain optimistic.

Cheers

-Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&nbsp;Ismael,</p>
<p>A very Happy New Year to&nbsp;you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how secure the future of <span class="caps">BPM</span> is at times. It seems that there has been a bit of a lack of innovation in this space, considering how long it has been around. I realize it is often hard to turn the excitement and promise of a new technology into revenue, and I expect that has a major impact on&nbsp;developments. </p>
<p>Because of this, it seems that many vendors have created alternative approaches (largely because they don&#8217;t understand <span class="caps">BPM</span> properly). This just adds to the confusion of potential customers. So I&#8217;m not so sure how much time &#8216;pure&#8217; <span class="caps">BPM</span> has before some of these alternatives become too embedded in the minds of those&nbsp;customers.</p>
<p>But I remain&nbsp;optimistic.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>-Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hecker</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31500</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Hecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 04:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding C2 certification: If you&#039;re referring to OS certification (as would seem to be the case by references to NT and AIX), then Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 achieved the equivalent of C2 certification back in 2004 when it achieved Common Criteria validation at Evaluation Assurance Level 3 (EAL3). Common Criteria is the replacement for the &quot;Orange Book&quot; security criteria like C2, B1, etc. About a year ago RHEL4 received Common Criteria validation at EAL4, a substantially more rigorous standard than the old C2 certification. So Open Source operating systems are now fully competitive with proprietary OSes in terms of security certifications.

The main thing lacking from an Open Source point of view is security certification of applications above the OS -- but this is not just an issue with Open Source. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.commoncriteriaportal.org/public/consumer/index.php?menu=4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;current list of Common Criteria evaluated products&lt;/a&gt; contains only a few products that are not OSes or security-related products, and most of those are middleware (e.g., Oracle, WedSphere).

However, achieving Common Criteria validation, though not trivial, is not an insuperable obstacle either (it basically takes a couple of years and on the order of $1M or more, depending on assurance level), so think the expectation of seeing Open Source applications achieve CC validation within five years is a reasonable one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding C2 certification: If you&#8217;re referring to <span class="caps">OS</span> certification (as would seem to be the case by references to <span class="caps">NT</span> and <span class="caps">AIX</span>), then Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 achieved the equivalent of C2 certification back in 2004 when it achieved Common Criteria validation at Evaluation Assurance Level 3 (<span class="caps">EAL3</span>). Common Criteria is the replacement for the &#8220;Orange Book&#8221; security criteria like C2, B1, etc. About a year ago <span class="caps">RHEL4</span> received Common Criteria validation at <span class="caps">EAL4</span>, a substantially more rigorous standard than the old C2 certification. So Open Source operating systems are now fully competitive with proprietary OSes in terms of security&nbsp;certifications.</p>
<p>The main thing lacking from an Open Source point of view is security certification of applications above the <span class="caps">OS</span>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;but this is not just an issue with Open Source. The <a href="http://www.commoncriteriaportal.org/public/consumer/index.php?menu=4" rel="nofollow">current list of Common Criteria evaluated products</a> contains only a few products that are not OSes or security-related products, and most of those are middleware (e.g., Oracle,&nbsp;WedSphere).</p>
<p>However, achieving Common Criteria validation, though not trivial, is not an insuperable obstacle either (it basically takes a couple of years and on the order of $1M or more, depending on assurance level), so think the expectation of seeing Open Source applications achieve <span class="caps">CC</span> validation within five years is a reasonable&nbsp;one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31422</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis,

I like the concept for an EPMS... We might used that term at some point.

Happy new year to you!

-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,</p>
<p>I like the concept for an <span class="caps">EPMS</span>&#8230; We might used that term at some&nbsp;point.</p>
<p>Happy new year to&nbsp;you!</p>
<p>-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Ip</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31421</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Ip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

That would be great. BPMS should then be renamed as EPMS (Enterprise Processes Management System), only if it can really support all enterprise activities, with a generic template or model, as depicted in Professor Porter&#039;s &quot;Value Chain&quot; model.

Have a prosperous 2007!

-Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>That would be great. <span class="caps">BPMS</span> should then be renamed as <span class="caps">EPMS</span> (Enterprise Processes Management System), only if it can really support all enterprise activities, with a generic template or model, as depicted in Professor Porter&#8217;s &#8220;Value Chain&#8221;&nbsp;model.</p>
<p>Have a prosperous&nbsp;2007!</p>
<p>-Francis</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31416</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis,

I could not agree more, and here is an other inference for you: a BPMS will receive C2 certification within the next five years, and it will be based upon an Open Source code base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis,</p>
<p>I could not agree more, and here is an other inference for you: a <span class="caps">BPMS</span> will receive C2 certification within the next five years, and it will be based upon an Open Source code&nbsp;base.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Ip</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/01/01/inferences-for-07/comment-page-1/#comment-31414</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Ip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

I believe that you might have missed several emerging trends that could have a significant impact to the IT arena. They are:

1. SysML, DoDAF, and ISO AP233 have been converging as a de jure international standard that could replace BPMN and the like.

2. CMMI has replaced CMM for a long time. CMMI 1.2 will come in 3 variants, namely: Development (already released), Services, and Aquisition.

3. Until BPMS can support operational processes (not just business processes) and EDI (X.12 and EDIFACT) similar to BizTalk, not many large organizations will jump on the BPMS bandwagon anytime soon. This has to do with supply chain management processes using RFID technology in large enterprises such as WalMart and DoD.

Don&#039;t forget, DoD is the largest IT buyer and user in the world. When it buys products from a vendor for the whole department, many other government agencies follow. A good example is the US Congress that uses Microsoft&#039;s Exchange for e-mail management. Would US Congress adopt Open Source software? The answer is highly unlikely, as none would pass the C2 certification. An example is that IBM rewrote AIX to get the C2 certification. Microsoft&#039;s NT-based OSes have been C2 certified. When DoD wants something as standard, DoD always gets it from standard bodies such as ANSI (MUMPS, Ada, etc.), EIA (EVMS), IEEE (POSIX), and now OMG and ISO for DoDAF!

-Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>I believe that you might have missed several emerging trends that could have a significant impact to the <span class="caps">IT</span> arena. They&nbsp;are:</p>
<p>1. SysML, DoDAF, and <span class="caps">ISO</span> <span class="caps">AP233</span> have been converging as a de jure international standard that could replace <span class="caps">BPMN</span> and the&nbsp;like.</p>
<p>2. <span class="caps">CMMI</span> has replaced <span class="caps">CMM</span> for a long time. <span class="caps">CMMI</span> 1.2 will come in 3 variants, namely: Development (already released), Services, and&nbsp;Aquisition.</p>
<p>3. Until <span class="caps">BPMS</span> can support operational processes (not just business processes) and <span class="caps">EDI</span> (X.12 and <span class="caps">EDIFACT</span>) similar to BizTalk, not many large organizations will jump on the <span class="caps">BPMS</span> bandwagon anytime soon. This has to do with supply chain management processes using <span class="caps">RFID</span> technology in large enterprises such as WalMart and&nbsp;DoD.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget, DoD is the largest <span class="caps">IT</span> buyer and user in the world. When it buys products from a vendor for the whole department, many other government agencies follow. A good example is the <span class="caps">US</span> Congress that uses Microsoft&#8217;s Exchange for e-mail management. Would <span class="caps">US</span> Congress adopt Open Source software? The answer is highly unlikely, as none would pass the C2 certification. An example is that <span class="caps">IBM</span> rewrote <span class="caps">AIX</span> to get the C2 certification. Microsoft&#8217;s <span class="caps">NT</span>-based OSes have been C2 certified. When DoD wants something as standard, DoD always gets it from standard bodies such as <span class="caps">ANSI</span> (<span class="caps">MUMPS</span>, Ada, etc.), <span class="caps">EIA</span> (<span class="caps">EVMS</span>), <span class="caps">IEEE</span> (<span class="caps">POSIX</span>), and now <span class="caps">OMG</span> and <span class="caps">ISO</span> for&nbsp;DoDAF!</p>
<p>-Francis</p>
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		<title>By: Office 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Office 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post by Ismael Ghalimi and software by Mark Bean [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Original post by Ismael Ghalimi and software by Mark Bean&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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