Comments on: BPM 2.0 Epiphany http://itredux.com/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/ New Rules for a New IT World Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:03:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Hugues Malphettes http://itredux.com/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-56416 Hugues Malphettes Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:51:36 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-56416 Hi Tom, Thanks for your ideas! We have added in 5.0 a filter to hide technical decorations. Hiding an entire set of shapes is definitely something we should take the time to develop. We also support collapsible pools, which hides those messages that don't make sense when you want to focus on a subset of the process. The ability to attach documents and URL's to shapes is part of the open-source code that we donated to Eclipse. As we are very focused on transforming the diagrams into executable processes, we are hoping that the community will bite the apple and contribute extensions in this area, especially: - New types of attachments. - Indexing and searching of attached objects. - Scenarios that we have not foreseen. Best regards -Hugues P.S. Technical documentations presented at EclipseCon last week <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/STP_BPMN_Presentation_Hands_on_tutorial">here</a> and <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Reusing_the_modeler">here</a>. Hi Tom,

Thanks for your ideas! We have added in 5.0 a filter to hide technical decorations. Hiding an entire set of shapes is definitely something we should take the time to develop. We also support collapsible pools, which hides those messages that don’t make sense when you want to focus on a subset of the process.

The ability to attach documents and URL’s to shapes is part of the open-source code that we donated to Eclipse. As we are very focused on transforming the diagrams into executable processes, we are hoping that the community will bite the apple and contribute extensions in this area, especially:

- New types of attachments.
- Indexing and searching of attached objects.
- Scenarios that we have not foreseen.

Best regards
 -Hugues

P.S. Technical documentations presented at EclipseCon last week here and here.

]]> By: Ismael Ghalimi http://itredux.com/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-56400 Ismael Ghalimi Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:05:31 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-56400 Tom, Thanks for the feedback. I like your ideas a lot, and forwarded them to our team. Best regards -Ismael Tom,

Thanks for the feedback. I like your ideas a lot, and forwarded them to our team.

Best regards
 -Ismael

]]> By: Tom Debevoise http://itredux.com/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-56399 Tom Debevoise Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:01:20 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-56399 Ismael, I think it would be useful, as a management view, to be able to selectively remove display of some of the advanced elements of BPMN. For instance, if you did not display the exceptions, compensations, and the activities and flows associated with these, you would have the essence of a business process, one that would be simpler to view and understand. Another option would be to build a non-deployable version of the source diagram, and build management versions of the process there. On another note, I was talking with Jacques and Pascal about version 5.0 of the Designer, and discovered that activities can be connected to documents and URL's. I think Intalio should explore this a bit more. With URL's or (god-forbid) a little JavaScript, the Designer, or the Process Explorer, could be linked to many documentation and reporting sources. This might even include a very interesting to-do list in the process panel. Further, the more we do this, the more we find it important to develop consistent naming standards. You want your diagram to tell a story. -Tom P.S. You forgot the part where you throw the conceptual design over the wall and send it offshore, with a prayer... Ismael,

I think it would be useful, as a management view, to be able to selectively remove display of some of the advanced elements of BPMN. For instance, if you did not display the exceptions, compensations, and the activities and flows associated with these, you would have the essence of a business process, one that would be simpler to view and understand. Another option would be to build a non-deployable version of the source diagram, and build management versions of the process there.

On another note, I was talking with Jacques and Pascal about version 5.0 of the Designer, and discovered that activities can be connected to documents and URL’s. I think Intalio should explore this a bit more. With URL’s or (god-forbid) a little JavaScript, the Designer, or the Process Explorer, could be linked to many documentation and reporting sources. This might even include a very interesting to-do list in the process panel.

Further, the more we do this, the more we find it important to develop consistent naming standards. You want your diagram to tell a story.

-Tom

P.S. You forgot the part where you throw the conceptual design over the wall and send it offshore, with a prayer…

]]> By: Intalio http://itredux.com/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-54342 Intalio Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:41:40 +0000 http://itredux.com/blog/2007/03/06/bpm-20-epiphany/#comment-54342 [...] Earlier today, we participated in a lively ebizQ panel organized by Sandy Kemsley, with Phil Larson, Director of Product Strategy for Appian Corporation, and Phil Gilbert, Executive Vice President and CTO for Lombardi Software. More details on the panel’s outcome are available on this article published by IT|Redux. [...] […] Earlier today, we participated in a lively ebizQ panel organized by Sandy Kemsley, with Phil Larson, Director of Product Strategy for Appian Corporation, and Phil Gilbert, Executive Vice President and CTO for Lombardi Software. More details on the panel’s outcome are available on this article published by IT|Redux. […]

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