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	<description>New Rules for a New IT World</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-588940</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've attempted to explore the nature of participation within open source communities before. However, I've come away feeling as if I didn't get exactly how/why actively participating in the open source software development life cycle is valuable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve attempted to explore the nature of participation within open source communities before. However, I&#8217;ve come away feeling as if I didn&#8217;t get exactly how/why actively participating in the open source software development life cycle is&nbsp;valuable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: IT&#124;Redux - Clearspace Could Bring Office 2.0 to BPM 2.0</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-62453</link>
		<dc:creator>IT&#124;Redux - Clearspace Could Bring Office 2.0 to BPM 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All in all, I really like this idea. If you like it too, let&#8217;s build it with D3! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] All in all, I really like this idea. If you like it too, let&#8217;s build it with D3!&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-58878</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,

I am not sure that I understand your question, can you clarify?

Regarding the pre-paid subscription, we do not give a discount, but pre-payment ensures that you will not have to pay more in the event that we would increase our subscription price down the road.

What do you mean by loaylty points?

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,</p>
<p>I am not sure that I understand your question, can you&nbsp;clarify?</p>
<p>Regarding the pre-paid subscription, we do not give a discount, but pre-payment ensures that you will not have to pay more in the event that we would increase our subscription price down the&nbsp;road.</p>
<p>What do you mean by loaylty&nbsp;points?</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-58876</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Yes, this eliminated the Product Manager position, and distributed it to various people within our engineering group. This is something that would not have been possible before. As a result, we reduced our costs and actually simplified the process, while delivering a product that is much more aligned with what customers are willing to pay for.

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Yes, this eliminated the Product Manager position, and distributed it to various people within our engineering group. This is something that would not have been possible before. As a result, we reduced our costs and actually simplified the process, while delivering a product that is much more aligned with what customers are willing to pay&nbsp;for.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Externally, of course. Is the pre-paid subscription at a discount, or at regular subscription rate? Did you think about loyalty points instead of pre-paying subscription for D3 credits?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Externally, of course. Is the pre-paid subscription at a discount, or at regular subscription rate? Did you think about loyalty points instead of pre-paying subscription for D3&nbsp;credits?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: mad dog in the fog</title>
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		<dc:creator>mad dog in the fog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Doeff</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-58492</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Doeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Thanks for sharing this. Very, very thought provoking. One thing that wasn't clear to me -- by "crowd sourcing" your product management functions, has this resulted in eliminating the Product Manager position, or has it just reduced the headcount in that area? I would think that there is still a need for a Product Manager to collect all of that feedback, synthesize it into clear requirements, etc.

-Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this. Very, very thought provoking. One thing that wasn&#8217;t clear to me&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;by &#8220;crowd sourcing&#8221; your product management functions, has this resulted in eliminating the Product Manager position, or has it just reduced the headcount in that area? I would think that there is still a need for a Product Manager to collect all of that feedback, synthesize it into clear requirements,&nbsp;etc.</p>
<p>-Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-58446</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous,

On which side? Internally to Intalio, or with customers?

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous,</p>
<p>On which side? Internally to Intalio, or with&nbsp;customers?</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Salesforce.com has &lt;a href="http://ideas.salesforce.com/"&gt;IdeaExchange&lt;/a&gt;. It is pretty similar to what you have blogged about. Beyond the public site, I guess Salesforce.com must be using standard Product Management methods to prioritize features for a release. Your method seems more democratic.  I am wondering how you handle "Layer 8" issues in this method -- people, politics, administration, and management.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Salesforce.com has <a href="http://ideas.salesforce.com/">IdeaExchange</a>. It is pretty similar to what you have blogged about. Beyond the public site, I guess Salesforce.com must be using standard Product Management methods to prioritize features for a release. Your method seems more democratic.  I am wondering how you handle &#8220;Layer 8&#8243; issues in this method&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;people, politics, administration, and&nbsp;management.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-57794</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

Disruptive innovation does not have to happen very often, so we can take care of it ourselves. Also, it usually does not require as much interactions with customers, for they would not be able to provide the right input, therefore Product Management is easier to handle.

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Disruptive innovation does not have to happen very often, so we can take care of it ourselves. Also, it usually does not require as much interactions with customers, for they would not be able to provide the right input, therefore Product Management is easier to&nbsp;handle.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Steinar Carlsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steinar Carlsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob Urry</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-57766</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Urry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ismael,

Sometimes you need to add a little more that is asked for my customers, otherwise you only have sustaining innovation. How do you cater for innovations of a disruptive nature? Not that I disagree with your approach, it certainly seems to be doing the trick.

Cheers
-Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ismael,</p>
<p>Sometimes you need to add a little more that is asked for my customers, otherwise you only have sustaining innovation. How do you cater for innovations of a disruptive nature? Not that I disagree with your approach, it certainly seems to be doing the&nbsp;trick.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />&nbsp;-Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Ismael Ghalimi</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-57758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismael Ghalimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anshu,

We offer them to pre-pay multiple years of subscription and to buy credits for D3 projects in advance, which they can spend as they wish over multiple years. This makes it a little bit harder for us from a revenue recognition standpoint, but as a private company, this is totally manageable.

Best regards
-Ismael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anshu,</p>
<p>We offer them to pre-pay multiple years of subscription and to buy credits for D3 projects in advance, which they can spend as they wish over multiple years. This makes it a little bit harder for us from a revenue recognition standpoint, but as a private company, this is totally&nbsp;manageable.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />&nbsp;-Ismael</p>
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		<title>By: Anshu Sharma</title>
		<link>http://itredux.com/2007/03/16/how-to-outsource-product-management/comment-page-1/#comment-57757</link>
		<dc:creator>Anshu Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business process innovation by a business process management company! What is the reaction from buyers in large companies where they have (sometimes large) fixed budgets that they can spend on the initial product, but may not have the flexibility to spend smaller amounts later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business process innovation by a business process management company! What is the reaction from buyers in large companies where they have (sometimes large) fixed budgets that they can spend on the initial product, but may not have the flexibility to spend smaller amounts&nbsp;later?</p>
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